hiiiiiii! for this edition of the grapefruits sometimes art mail, i'm doing something slightly different. i have been really busy lately, and my attention span isn't what it should be, so reading has been a challenge. instead, i have been listening to more podcasts while doing dishes, making breakfast, etc. it is kind of hard to find art-related podcasts that qualify as the kind of "easy listening" i have been craving lately, but i have put together a few that really hit the spot – hope you like them!

BOMB magazine has a podcast called fuse, and I really enjoyed their latest episode in which writer maggie nelson interviews painter tala madani. i haven't read maggie nelson's recent book, "on freedom," but this made me curious. i have read mixed reviews... anyone out there checked it out yet? also take a listen to this episode if you, like me, love john wilson of the docu-show "how to with john wilson"