“You are more likely to find the raw ingredients for a better future for the food system at the Waffle House than you are at your local farmers’ market.”

A provocative claim from the authors of a new book, Feed the People! Why industrial food is good and how to make it even better.

A lot of people who care about these things will tell you that the food system is broken. Jan Dutkiewicz and Gabriel Rosenberg insist that it is not.

They argue the point at length in their new book, about which we had a great conversation. I encourage you to listen and, if you're minded, to tell me what you think.

Take care

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