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January 8, 2023

Good Russian (TM) poll

The facts

My Good Russian (TM) rants aren’t racist Polish Russophobia…

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Jade McGlynn @DrJadeMcGlynn
‘It is disappointing’: Lev Gudkov, head of Levada Centre, on Russian society’s enduring pro-war consensus, the ritualisation of the war, & many Russians’ lack of compassion for Ukrainian victims. Stark results, bracing analysis, depressing read spiegel.de/international/…
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9:24 PM ∙ Jan 7, 2023
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If anything this poll proves my point a year after we started raging at Russia, complicit Russians, Russian victimhood, lack of Russian compassion, Russian lack of understanding of how they are viewed.

I could go through the piece, every sentence is important.

Key points:

Most recently, the majority of respondents, 53 percent, believed that the military operation in Ukraine has been a success.

People worry almost exclusively about their own country’s military defeat, the chaos in the army, the incompetence of the leadership.

The Russians have little compassion for the Ukrainians. Almost no one here talks about the fact that people are being killed in Ukraine.

Out of habit, people identify with the state and adopt its rhetoric about their fatherland's struggle against fascism and Nazism, just like they did in Soviet times, to justify the situation. [I DRAW A DIRECT LINE TO CALLING UKRAINIANS ‘NAZIS’ IN 2022 FROM CALLING POLITICAL PRISONERS IN GULAGS ‘FASCISTS’ IN OUR BOOK AND HERE]

We conducted an express telephone survey on February 27, right after the war began. At that time, I still thought that the reaction would be very critical of the war. But I was wrong. Sixty-eight percent supported the war.

This shows the contradiction in people's minds: On the one hand is their identification with the state; on the other, there is the personal level, the concern for their own lives.

I've been asking in our surveys for years: "Are you willing to fight if necessary?" And always more than 50 percent answer: "Whether my country is right or not, I am ready." Of course, many of them don’t really want to fight, they’re just behaving in a purely conformist way toward the state. We have seen that those who could, ran away and left the country.

They don't understand that in the current situation, Ukraine would not accept such talks. It shows the imperial arrogance of this society. The point of view of the other is not understood or accepted.

Soviet stereotypes were serviced, such as the complex of Russians supposedly living in a besieged fortress, being victims and not being liked by anyone. These are deep-seated mechanisms based on militaristic and anti-Western ideology. They are taken for granted, especially by older people, and do not require any confirmation or argumentation.

The responsibility is seen as lying with the United States, NATO and Europe. Ukraine is not regarded as a sovereign state.

I find this somewhat validating. Its data from Russia.

We have written many posts on the Good Russian (TM) and the data supports our points.

And I’m not the only one.

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Daniel Asher in solidarity 🌻🇺🇸🇺🇦🟩🕊️🟥 @abstractedaway
Wherever there's an atrocity on a national scale, there is both individual and collective guilt *and* responsibility. Citizens can do something about it, or remain complicit in it. We aren't just cogs or bystanders. History's question of each of us will be: where were YOU?
6:17 AM ∙ Jan 7, 2023
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Daniel Asher in solidarity 🌻🇺🇸🇺🇦🟩🕊️🟥 @abstractedaway
A real danger is that any discomfort or complaint in russia is being treated like a redemption arc. This doesn't just give war criminals a pass; it fosters complacency in the west that dissent will stop this, so we don't have to. Case in point:
theguardian.com‘I don’t see justice in this war’: Russian soldier exposes rot at core of Ukraine invasionExclusive: Pavel Filatyev has fled his homeland after publishing a 141-page account detailing his experiences on the frontline
6:49 PM ∙ Jan 7, 2023
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Remember this piece?

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The Paratrooper - I'm just a poor boy from a poor family
Westerners too often think that a Russian who is anti-Putin is a hero. The enemy of my enemy is my friend fallacy. They’re ‘the good Russians’. This is true for nationalist Navalny and was true for the ‘good Germans’ i.e. war criminal Slav hating lebensraum anti-Semite warriors…
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2 years ago · 2 likes · Dustin Du Cane

I feel many journalists are trying to be ‘fair and balanced’ about genocide war and an evil state ruling a complicitly evil society. There aren’t good people on both sides of genocide war.

Aleksandar is another somebody I share views with.

@OxanaShevel It's the \"I hate war so much, that I can't tell the difference between the victim and the aggressor\" worldview.","username":"polidemitolog","name":"Aleksandar Djokic (Александар Джокич)","date":"Wed Dec 07 18:56:03 +0000 2022","photos":[],"quoted_tweet":{},"retweet_count":4,"like_count":51,"expanded_url":{},"video_url":null,"belowTheFold":true}" data-component-name="Twitter2ToDOM">
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Aleksandar Djokic (Александар Джокич) @polidemitolog
@OxanaShevel It's the "I hate war so much, that I can't tell the difference between the victim and the aggressor" worldview.
6:56 PM ∙ Dec 7, 2022
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Aleksandar Djokic (Александар Джокич) @polidemitolog
I wanted to write about being a victim of political repression and what it means to Russians and what it means to those nations who suffered under Russian imperialism. A 🧵
6:59 PM ∙ Nov 13, 2022
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Anton Gerashchenko @Gerashchenko_en
Opposition Russian artist Maksim Galkin listed some myths about Ukraine that circulate in Russia. I liked the one about combat ducks. How many of these have you heard? 📹: shaytms1/TikTok
6:29 PM ∙ Jan 7, 2023
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